MENYOAL LAKI PANJANG RAMBUT DAN WANITA PENDEK RAMBUT

Cekal ???

Maksute ditanggapi opo dicekal ki ???

Ra ngertos aku broda...#mikir

Stay blessed.

Salam

HERI771 tulis:

lha ya itu diatas, setiap orang komen pasti kena cekal TS, selalu dibalas.. bagus dong, malah ada topic, yg punya TS ntah kemana belum update... gitu lho... hahhahaha.. 😌😂

cekal maksudne aku, TS cepat menangkap setiap komentar orang lain, cepat merespon, selalu disambut setiap komentar sekecil pun, tujuan timbal balik setiap komunikasi.. itu bagus menurutku, artinya menghargai setiap apapun itu komentar dari orang lain... gitu lho..  👍👍

(btw ini yg jawab bukan mesinkan kan hahahah...) perlahan saja tapi jitu, mengurangi Typo jg 😌😂

*tadi kan momennya lagi berseloroh... 😂😂  

wis toh nga usah diperpanjang, OTT berkelanjutan ntar dihapus mimin lanjutin yg laen.. ✌️

salam broda #bikin enjoy aja

ALBERTHS562 tulis:

Cekal ???

Maksute ditanggapi opo dicekal ki ???

Ra ngertos aku broda...#mikir

Stay blessed.

Salam

Sip broda HERI.... yg baik hati...

Saran diterima dgn sepenuh jiwa.

Salam

HERI771 tulis:

cekal maksudne aku, TS cepat menangkap setiap komentar orang lain, cepat merespon, selalu disambut setiap komentar sekecil pun, tujuan timbal balik setiap komunikasi.. itu bagus menurutku, artinya menghargai setiap apapun itu komentar dari orang lain... gitu lho..  👍👍

(btw ini yg jawab bukan mesinkan kan hahahah...) perlahan saja tapi jitu, mengurangi Typo jg 😌😂

*tadi kan momennya lagi berseloroh... 😂😂  

wis toh nga usah diperpanjang, OTT berkelanjutan ntar dihapus mimin lanjutin yg laen.. ✌️

salam broda #bikin enjoy aja

Pengen pangkas tapi rambutnya masih pendek. Tiba rambut panjang dikit malah gak anu.... ah sudalah hehehe...

Salam

Pemahaman tentang rambut (makota di kepala) untuk pria dan wanita sepertinya masih banyak yg belum kepikiran dan tahu.

Stay blessed

Salam

Blom tentu jugalah sist...dulu waktu kul...saya gondrong sepinggang...bukan nyombong ya sist...banyak cewek yang mau ngajak kenalan...tapi emang saya dasarnya cuek (maklum anak band waktu itu dan blom kepikiran tuk pacaran, serius ke kuliah)...jadi ya...jarang ditanggapinlah...waktu itu, saya justru lebih enak dan enjoy hang out bareng sama temen" cowok...Enak lho sist kalau dulu gondrong...kalau lagi hang out, pas ketemu preman...saya jarang dimintai duit (dikira temennya kali...hahaha)

Salam Damai Sist...

Tuhan memberkati...

ELISA859 tulis:

Kalo menurutku laki2 rambutnya harus pendek,agar kalo malam2 jalan sendiri g di kira bencong.kalo rambutnya pendek itu lebih keren dan maco.

Gondrong sepinggang ??

Wow.... ngerawatnya gimana itu broda ??

Saya malah rambut pendek sering diajak curhat. # susah memang jd pendengar yg baik..

Stay blessed.

Salam

RONNY542 tulis:

Blom tentu jugalah sist...dulu waktu kul...saya gondrong sepinggang...bukan nyombong ya sist...banyak cewek yang mau ngajak kenalan...tapi emang saya dasarnya cuek (maklum anak band waktu itu dan blom kepikiran tuk pacaran, serius ke kuliah)...jadi ya...jarang ditanggapinlah...waktu itu, saya justru lebih enak dan enjoy hang out bareng sama temen" cowok...Enak lho sist kalau dulu gondrong...kalau lagi hang out, pas ketemu preman...saya jarang dimintai duit (dikira temennya kali...hahaha)

Salam Damai Sist...

Tuhan memberkati...

Tiap hari keramas bro...waktu itu saya pakai sampo revlon...jadi biar gondrong...selalu bersih, wangi, hitam mengkilat rambut saya bro...hahaha...

Back to the topic bro...1 Korintus 11 itu maksudnya rambut secara Fisik atau cuma kiasan aja bro...saya blom mudeng banget walau tadi sekilas udah buka alkitab online...seingat saya topik ini juga pernah dibahas di web Forum Kristen...

Salam Damai Bro...

Tuhan memberkati...

ALBERTHS562 tulis:

Gondrong sepinggang ??

Wow.... ngerawatnya gimana itu broda ??

Saya malah rambut pendek sering diajak curhat. # susah memang jd pendengar yg baik..

Stay blessed.

Salam

Broda yg baik hati...

1 Kor 11  bab mahkota di kepala.

Monggo broda, di bagi apa yg broda tahu dan pahami di pasal tersebut.

Kita menghargai semua pendapat dan setiap catatan semua orang.

Jgn malu2 mengungkapkan pendapatnya.

Jgn lupa Bersyukur.

Salam

RONNY542 tulis:

Tiap hari keramas bro...waktu itu saya pakai sampo revlon...jadi biar gondrong...selalu bersih, wangi, hitam mengkilat rambut saya bro...hahaha...

Back to the topic bro...1 Korintus 11 itu maksudnya rambut secara Fisik atau cuma kiasan aja bro...saya blom mudeng banget walau tadi sekilas udah buka alkitab online...seingat saya topik ini juga pernah dibahas di web Forum Kristen...

Salam Damai Bro...

Tuhan memberkati...

Beda subjek, beda pula penafsiran atas objek. Beda "gereja", beda pula pendetanya. Beda pendeta, beda pula penafsiran atas Kalimatulloh.

Stay blessed.

Salam

How Should We Interpret 1 Corinthians 11: 2–16?

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In 1 Corinthians 11:2-16, Paul calls the men and women who were praying and prophesying in the assembly at Corinth to respect culturally relevant gender markers like head coverings, hair lengths, and hairstyles as a way of honoring God and each other. In doing so, he uses the metaphor of “head” and emphasizes interdependence between men and women. He shapes this passage in such a way that the key points are set in parallel groups with the strongest emphasis appearing at the center.

As he did in his letter to the church at Ephesus, Paul utilizes the metaphor “headship” in a creative way. In Ephesians 5, he started with the common cultural assumption of “male headship” including “male authority,” then dramatically turned the idea upside down emphasizing in its place mutual submission in terms of a radical and sacrificial love—yes, specifically from husbands. Paul makes a similar play on words here, though this time he nuances the other common idea of male “headship” in terms of “source” or “point of origin,” such as the “head” of a river. (Examples of this are found in both creation accounts, such as in Gen. 1:1, where the word usually translated “in the beginning” is literally “at the head.”) In 1 Corinthians 11, Paul employs this “point of origin” imagery to emphasize the essential unity between men and women. He starts by explaining that “the head of every man is Christ” (1 Cor. 11:3), most likely referring to Christ’s role in creation (see John 1:1-3). Christ is the head of every man as the Creator because he is the “source” or “point of origin” of the first man Adam. Paul then extends his use of creation imagery in 1 Corinthians 11:3 with his second comparison, “the head of woman is man.” Just as Adam came from Christ the Creator of all things, so Eve was taken from Adam (Gen. 2:18–25). In his third comparison, Paul steps back to see the bigger picture by declaring, “the head of Christ is God.” Perhaps it seems surprising that Paul’s order was not “woman-man, man-Christ, Christ-God” (thus, implying a hierarchy with God the Father at the top). But, the apostle is not making that point here—in fact, nowhere does he make that point. Instead, his order is, “man-Christ, woman-man, Christ-God.” This follows solid New Testament Christology by associating Jesus with the creation of man and woman “in the beginning” (John 1:1-3) and declaring without contradiction that Jesus “came from God” in the incarnation (John 13:3).

Taken together, the three comparisons in 1 Corinthians 11:3 are representative of Paul’s recurring theme of mutuality. In other words, both women and men come from God (Gen. 1:26–27) even though the man was created first and the woman was taken from him (Gen. 2). Paul’s all-inclusive reading of the creation and procreation orders is reinforced in the center sections of this passage (1 Cor. 11:7–12). Yes, it’s true that woman was created second and for the sake of the man’s aloneness (Gen. 2:18; 1 Cor. 11:7–9). However, it’s also true that neither man nor woman is independent of the other, for as woman came from man so men are born of women and everything comes from God (Gen. 2:20; 1 Cor. 11–12). Paul’s interpretation of the Genesis creation accounts and the main point he is making from them are clear: the orders of creation and procreation speak of mutuality with diversity. The two “orders” are meant to be set side-by-side.

Having laid the theological foundation of gender interdependency, Paul turns to a more pragmatic concern: head coverings. It was customary in Paul’s day for women in “the churches of God” (1 Cor. 11:2, 16) to cover their heads, and for men to keep their heads uncovered. Moreover, the apostle instructs them to follow this traditional practice when praying or prophesying in church gatherings of that time (11:4–7, 13–15). The issue for Paul at hand is that men and women should present themselves in a way that honors their gender uniqueness—especially when they are up front in church. Moreover, they should do this in a way that is respectful in the surrounding culture. Matters of general decency or even one’s simple cultural preferences should never be allowed to distract from the message being preached.

Here we come to the central verse of this passage, 1 Corinthians 11:10. Quite literally, it comes at the center of the parallel structure of the apostle’s argument, a kind of structure that was common for Jewish rabbis in Paul’s day, steeped in the Hebrew literature of the Old Testament. The climactic punch line is, “It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head because of the angels.” Let’s unpack his cryptic yet powerful statement piece-by-piece.

First, exactly what is Paul’s command to the women who were praying and prophesying in the assemblies at Corinth? Literally, the text reads, “a woman ought to have authority over her own head” (NIV)—not a “sign” or “symbol” of authority as some translations add. In the church at Corinth, Paul speaks specifically to the women who are “praying” (leading public worship) or “prophesying” (preaching the gospel) in front of the church assembly. These women leaders are to have or exercise “authority over their own heads.” This could mean one of three things. One, it may mean something as simple as letting women decide how they wanted to “cover” their literal heads—that is, which hairstyle or external covering they prefer. Or, two, perhaps Paul is reminding the women to exercise that authority and keep their heads covered. Or, three, since Paul specifically acknowledges that the husband is the “head” of the wife at the beginning of this discussion (1 Cor. 11:3), his advice to the women prophets may carry forward his recurring theme of mutuality. In this sense, the apostle would be reminding the privileged male leader of the Roman household that when his wife speaks as a prophet, she speaks with authority over her “head” meaning her husband.

Whether Paul was endorsing the right of a woman prophet to choose her head covering, calling her to cover her head, or validating her authority as a spokesperson for God (like Deborah to Barak in Judg. 4–5, or Huldah to Josiah in 2 Kings 22; 2 Chron. 34), it is clear that women were serving as worship leaders and prophets in the New Testament church. Moreover, they were doing so with the apostle’s blessing and even with a divinely given sense of authority.

Second, what is the reason for Paul’s command? In a centered structure such as this one we must look on both sides of the main section. In this case, 1 Corinthians 11:7–9 and 11–12 complete the larger thought. As we saw above, these verses speak of the mutual interdependence of men and women as illustrated in the creation-procreation orders. Thus, the apostle reasons, (a) it is because man came first in creation and (b) because women come first in procreation that (c) a woman worship leader or prophet ought to have authority over her head. In other words, his advice to the women is linked directly to the idea of rebalancing patriarchy into mutuality. Though the men generally ruled in the household in that day, men and women could equally share leadership in the church.

The other reason given here is “because of the angels.” Even though there are almost as many interpretations of this little clause as there are interpreters, we dare not ignore the apostle’s words. To me, it seems most reasonable to connect “the angels” with the fact that many of these women were prophesying. In the Bible, as well as in much of the extra-biblical Jewish literature at this time, angels were the ones who mediated prophecy. In other words, they communicated God’s Word to the prophets who in turn communicated it to God’s people. We find this in several of the later books of the Old Testament (for example, Dan. 8–12; Zech. 1–6). Therefore, because women prophets were empowered by angels they ought to have authority over their own heads.

In 1 Corinthians 11:2-16, Paul is concerned that both men and women should exercise their leadership gifts—with appropriate authority—while presenting themselves in a manner that celebrates the uniqueness of their respective genders. The cultural markers for this will vary widely from time-to-time and from place-to-place, but the principle endures. Although our appearance should not be dictated by the culture around us, we should be sensitive to how we appear within that context—especially regarding those to whom we minister.

By : CBEI

ALBERTHS562 tulis:

SALAM DAMAI.

Kiranya damai Tuhan Allah Abraham, Ishak dan Yakub menyertai kita dari selama-lamanya sampai selama-lamanya.

Permios sadayana, perkenankan saya mengangkat topik MENYOAL LAKI-LAKI RAMBUT PANJANG DAN WANITA RAMBUT PENDEK.

saya tidak dapat menjangkau / menjawab karena belum melihat literatur ke arah situ. tapi topik masalah ini jujur saya akui top untuk dibahas. saya tertarik juga ingin mengetahuinya. semoga bro / pembuat judul ini dulu menjawab baru saya bisa menjawabnya.

Selamat malam broda CHRIS yang baik hati.

Kalau ada waktu, mohon dibaca dan direnungkan tulisan di atas dari CBEI atau pendapat ahli teologia via google dalam pelbagai versi bahasa.

Beda subyek, beda pula penafsirannya atas obyek menyoal topik yang TS angkat.

You knowlah, kemampuan manusia itu terbatas dan berbeda satu sama lain.

Ada yang ikut kata orang lain, ada pula yang hidup semaunya a.k.a serampangan (boro2 rambut, tatto dan alcohol saja banyak yang tidak mempermasalahkan/membenarkan). Padahal, Kalimatulloh sudah bersabda bahwasanya tubuh kita itu is Bait ALLAH dan kita diajak untuk sekali-kali tidak menjadi BATU SANDUNGAN.

Sejauh yang saya baca dari pelbagai literatur, banyak penafsiran berbeda para ahli menyoal topik ini.

Saya juga tertarik menyoal topik ini, karena topik ini banyak orang Kristen kurang begitu tertarik atau mungkin pemahamannya belum sampai atau belum tahu sama sekali atau belum pernah baca di Alkitab sama sekali hehehe..

Saya yakinlah dengan kemampuan dan pengalaman broda CHRIS. Kalau ROHUL KUDUS di pihak broda, nothing is impossible. #assek

Dalam pada itu, gak etis kalau saya yang polos dan kurang cakap ini mendahului broda CHRIS yang bijaksana menjawab topik ini hehehe...

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Jangan lupa bahagia.

Salam

CHRISTIAN701 tulis:

saya tidak dapat menjangkau / menjawab karena belum melihat literatur ke arah situ. tapi topik masalah ini jujur saya akui top untuk dibahas. saya tertarik juga ingin mengetahuinya. semoga bro / pembuat judul ini dulu menjawab baru saya bisa menjawabnya.

Penampilan fisik itu pilihan setiap orang

Yang jadi masalah phisikis  - fisik laki, non fisik perempuan atau sebaliknya,

Ada orientasi seksual menyimpang - masalah serius